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菜农 发表于 2007-6-5 20:12

[原创]周其仁来美的公司讲演

<p><img src="attachments/dvbbs/2007-06/1181045316268775.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2007-06/1181045316268775.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /><br /><img src="attachments/dvbbs/2007-06/1181045332790567.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2007-06/1181045332790567.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /></p><p>我和周其仁交换名片<br /><img src="attachments/dvbbs/2007-06/1181045347401.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2007-06/1181045347401.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /></p><p>周其仁和何享键董事长亲切交谈。</p><p>周其仁讲课内容是:全球化时代中国经济崛起,崛起的原因,中国企业面临新的挑战,报告精彩,说理透彻,视野开阔。</p><p>周其仁教授给美的开的方子是:宏观学美国,微观学日本。</p><p>会后,菜农和周教授共尽晚餐。</p><p>(其他照片明天上传)<br /></p>

菜农 发表于 2007-6-5 20:15

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">关于经济大时代记录:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">周教授一开始讲全球化中中国经济的告诉成长,现在世界经济界发明一个词叫:是巴西、俄罗斯、印度、中国的四个国家的第一个字母的缩写,翻译成金砖,因为这四个国家经济在世界经济中增长强劲,其中中国在世界经济中增量最大,规模也最大,随便举一个例子:现在世界范围主要商品中的</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">200</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">样产品,中国都是全球第一。世界上的产品不能让中国人看见,中国一看见,过几天肯定把这个产品模仿出来了,服装、家用电器都是世界第一,汽车也上去了,中国已经成为第三大汽车生产基地,造船也是第三位,很快会总量上世界第一。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">中国成为世界上举足轻重的国家,国家领导人到国外受到隆重招待,叫人家不要铺张浪费都不行,人家要当你贵客。现在国外开天辟地有中文导游,这说明你有了实力就关注你,关键是边际,增量不得了。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">《商业周刊》写文章,说未来世界双雄并存,不出</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">10</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">年,中国就成为全世界规模最大得经济体,美国和印度只能屈居第二、三位。当然对美国商业领袖得警告。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">中国的价格,所有中国人会做的产品都是价格便宜,都要比世界同类产品便宜</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">50</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">%-</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">25</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">%。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">美国一个家具城市有很多工厂,这个城市的居民都在家具工厂就业,中国的家具一去,价格比他的木料还便宜,这个城市的工厂马上关掉。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">中国商品潮水般的在美国登陆,</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">90</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">年在美国</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">MADE IN CHINA</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">有是有,但是不多,</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">96</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">年回国,很多</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">MADE IN CHINA</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">,</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">96</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">以后,主流商业渠道,全是中国产品,这大家都估计不到的。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">由于中国货对世界的冲击,世界也相应反应,公司就选择走,大量的公司到中国。不光是钱,带着技术、管理经验,今天的产业就像游牧民族一样。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">过去莫托罗拉总裁说:一个东西只要日本人会做,那就完了,不是更精巧,就是更便宜。现在中国替代了日本,而且更厉害,一个东西不能让中国人看见,只要让中国人看见,中国人过两天会造。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">看美国股市,只要中国还不会造的企业,股价高,利润也高,但是只要中国会造的公司,那麻烦了,基本上只剩下一条路,就是走,到中国去办厂。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">中国凭什么崛起:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt 18pt;text-indent:-18pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list 18.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-font-family:'times new roman'"><span style="mso-list:ignore"><font face="Times New Roman">1、<span style="font:7pt &amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:"><font size="3">&nbsp; </font></span></font></span></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">长期贫穷的造成廉价劳动力。(他们的工人洗澡的和中国工人不洗澡怎么竞争?)美国时工资</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">21.11</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">美元,中国</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">0.64</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">美元。</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">78</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">年农民一年</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">133</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">元。</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">80</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">年抓到龙虾不吃,出口换点设备,当时圆珠笔不出水,高考时写不出来了,急死人,不写放在衬衫黎倒出水了,中关村的就知识分子衬衫口袋上都有圆珠笔墨水。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt 15.75pt;text-indent:-15.75pt;mso-char-indent-count:-1.5"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">、制度成本;无穷贵,什么都不能干,下面没有自主权,都是中央计划,周恩来就是累死的,那时外贸是专营的,两头不见面,企业没有自主权,干什么都不行。而改革开放后,制度改革,降低了成本,干什么都方便,当时为了制度改革,只有邓小平一个人敢批准,芜湖傻子瓜子年广久,是个粗人,炒瓜子很好,但是人太坏,到底要抓他还是不要抓他,有两种意见,上报中央,邓小平:先不要动他。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt 18pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">当年炒瓜子要邓小平批准,可见制度的成本多大啊。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt 18pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">后来做了制度改革的试点,叫特区,就是陕甘宁边区,邓小平说。</span></p>

花花 发表于 2007-6-5 20:15

<p><a id="ImgSpan" href="http://zmw.cn/bbs/uploadfile/forum/2007-06/1181045332790567.jpg" target="_blank"><img alt="按此在新窗口浏览图片" src="http://zmw.cn/bbs/uploadfile/forum/2007-06/1181045332790567.jpg" border="0" /></a></p><p></p><p>强烈支持。</p>

菜农 发表于 2007-6-5 20:26

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;关于公司部分:</font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">87</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">年日本政府组织的考察团,说的结论:中国还没有公司,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">三十年时间,杀出一批公司和企业家:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">任正非(华为),</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">柳传志(联想)</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">麦伯良(中集)</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">王石(万科)</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">浙商:徐文荣(横店、磁性产品)、鲁冠球(万向)、南存辉(正泰,低压电器,以前产品爆炸死人。)、李书福(吉利,投资几十亿都不行,)、马云(阿里巴巴)、江桂兰(富岭塑料)、沈国强(慈溪欧洲电器)</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">何享键(美的企业集团)</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">经济增长与企业成长</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">1</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">、一个经济一家公司</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">芬兰</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman"> NOKIA</font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">泰州</span><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">春兰</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">、群雄顶天</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">日本欧洲</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">1997</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">前韩国</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">1970</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">以来的香港</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt 18pt;text-indent:-18pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list 18.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-font-family:'times new roman'"><span style="mso-list:ignore"><font face="Times New Roman">3、<span style="font:7pt &amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:"><font size="3">&nbsp; </font></span></font></span></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">前赴后继(宏观好,微观差)一个一个公司勃然兴勃然亡。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt 18pt;text-indent:-18pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list 18.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-font-family:'times new roman'"><span style="mso-list:ignore"><font face="Times New Roman">4、<span style="font:7pt &amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:"><font size="3">&nbsp; </font></span></font></span></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">长江后浪推前浪(美国:顶端永远有活力,也有百年老店)</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">公司被误解,不是一座楼,而是有机体。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">很多复杂的有机机制没有跟上,神经系统,有机的成长英语是</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">GROWTH</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">为什么那么多死掉公司,发达国家的公司存活率很低。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">绝大多数的公司都是机会致死的,主观上都想把公司做好,但是成长的有机结合不行,不能做到头大脚也跟着大,不匹配。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">现在情况有些变化,民工荒,然后土地价格上升,成本在变化,剩下你怎么办?马上要应用。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">日本人在六七十年代,松下、丰田把美国抽得洗礼哗啦,都是因为精益管理,这里头的学问那么大,物流、供应链,把水分挤出来。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">这里有很大的文章。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">大局学美国(顶端的企业保持活力,创新等),微观学日本(日本人被资源逼着,做事仔细认真,作为中国人难为情,看人家敬业的态度,我们访问一次日本回来就改善一次态度,到日本一个礼拜是不够的,派一批人去日本去做,血液里容进去,理解这个环境的变化)。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">然后,周其人讲述了一个香港公司从做</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">OEM</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">掌握实力后,和上游商家接触,自己慢慢学会开拓市场,最后完成了自主品牌的经历。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">周其仁也苦口婆心劝说国内一些人自大、浮躁、锁国思想,他说他妈对日本侵略记着恨,所以周其仁在美国买车很苦恼,便宜的日本车他妈反对,所以只好听妈妈的。但是他马上用老妈妈的口气说:你不买日本产品也就算了,干吗不去学习人家先进的东西呢?学习人家先进东西才能打败人家嘛,人家美国把日本研究透,又来了一个反弹,人家美国企业一样学丰田的精益管理,中国人为何不懂这个道理呢?</span></p>

兮兮 发表于 2007-6-5 21:05

真是重量级啊。好像张五常国内最服周其仁。

章星球 发表于 2007-6-5 22:19

菜农弄个题目把周其仁先生请过来坐坐嘛。

菜农 发表于 2007-6-6 09:42

<p><img src="attachments/dvbbs/2007-06/1181094099623225.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2007-06/1181094099623225.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /></p><p>旁一下大款合影。<br /></p>

psyzjs 发表于 2007-6-6 12:20

还是最后一张照片最帅![em02]

李大苗 发表于 2007-6-7 15:57

看了对白后,忽然想到一句话,就是,中国人现在还在学着造产品,而真本事是造企业,

李大兴 发表于 2007-6-8 00:26

<p>18年前在芝加哥见过周其仁教授,那时他的见解和话语还很有体改所诸公的味道,现在看上去象学者了。</p><p>但愿国内经济学者不要陶醉在崛起里。</p>

菜农 发表于 2007-6-8 10:02

<p>回章星球:周教授现在是大忙人,一时不可能真的有时间上真名,何况真名还没有形成特色,目前是转贴为主,如果要真正形成一个有特色的板块,我们通过一定的渠道传话,估计他会参与的。</p><p>回大苗:中国企业做产品还没有真正掌握,至于做企业,君不见华立收购菲利普CDMA实验室,TCL收购欧洲的企业,结果是怎么样的?老实说吧,在国内我们收购日本人的企业,我还能说一个道道,至于出去收购别人的企业,我还刚刚上完德鲁克弟子的课,概念还没有搞懂,你想中国其他企业好不到那里去,要摆一个姿势拍一个照片可能可以,至于跨国文化融合,嘿嘿……</p>

天边外 发表于 2007-6-8 13:33

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